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Are We Worse Than Saddam?
To whom it may concern,
I seem to recall a statistic I read in ETS that showed the US was killing
more Iraqi civilians per day than during Saddam's regime. Now as I search
through all the back issues I have, I can't seem to find that particular
article.
Does anybody at ETS! remember this fact/article, and what issue it was in?
Thanks for your time.
PS. I love ETS! Keep up the excellent work.
--Guy Cournoyer, via e-mail
G.P. replies. I don't recall seeing that stat in ETS! or anywhere
else; perhaps some reader has. It would be very, very hard to verify, since
it's unclear how many people the US has killed and doubly unclear how many
people Saddam killed.
However, if we take the rough estimate of 10,000 Iraqi civilians killed in
a year (within the range documented on iraqbodycount.org), Saddam would
have had to be responsible for 350,000 deaths in his rule to equal the
current US rate. That seems fairly likely--and absolutely certain if you
add in civilian deaths during the Iraq/Iran war, which Saddam was more than
partly responsible for.
And such a comparison misses a more important point: we helped put Saddam
in power, and for the first 20 years of his rule we helped keep him there.
(And then we betrayed the uprisings against him after the 1991 Gulf War.)
Either way you count it, the US has a lot of blood on its hands.
Report From Spain
Hi Geov,
I've just read your article 'Liberals, bare your teeth!' and it is the same
voice that came out of me a month ago in one of my columns.
Then we were facing a Aznar, a very powerful and mean Aznar. Full in war,
fully engaged in militarism. No more government, just the typical walls of
buildings who start to bite you if you dare to look.
When I wrote the column I even went further and tried to make people have a
look at bipartisan democratic behaviour. A critical look. I invited them
also to start with a 'parallel' vote and other hints to make them think.
I would never have believed any information from future, telling me that
Aznar has been kicked out of business totally. A this point I was praying
for simple majority.
Before the elections one of the sites that publishes my articles was
attacked three times in a row that ended shortly before the terrorist
attack on 11-M. Severe attacks, that nearly left the site without visits.
All in all, some 25.000 visitors had read the column before election day.
The same day I received information about intents of the bleeding
government to declare 'State of Exception' and stop the democratic
elections process.
Now, after the elections things are completely different in my life, Geov.
I feel better, a lot. Work is becoming very interesting again, it's easier
to undergo and I believe a lot more in peace and future than some days ago.
Since years I haven't felt better.
After the elections I received phone calls from many newspapers, interested
in working for them. Nice offers.
You can see that this column they tried so hard to stop from being on air
has done a lot. This is only the second year I'm writing in the internet
but now I definitely know that I've found my place in life.
So, when I read your voice... I thought you should know about my feelings
and experience. I hope this will comfort you and may help you to undertake
your work with knowledge. Knowledge of changings, in this case.
I believe that knowledge and information is the best energy mankind can
find on our search for peace.
Neocons still use weapons to make peace. Maybe they also try to make
ice-cream in a microwave.
Somebody should tell them how to use their brain, heart and rest of body.
And I'm sure that you are doing this educational job perfectly.
Greetings from Spain... touristy again!
--Miguel Furlock, via e-mail
In Defense of Nader
Dear ETS!,
I have read your stuff on line for at least 2 years, and like most of it.
Then I got to all the most recent Nader-bashing pieces. "Megalomania" etc.
Well, you have the right to say it. But I have the right to think less of
you for your views. The Democratic Party is never going to change anything
anymore, and you're not going to bring change by zeroing in blasting at
Nader with all your misplaced guns and bombs and inflated rhetoric.
The Nation mag is declining. So are a number of previously responsible left
writers. So ets. Well, so be it. Have a good life.
--David Shove, St. Paul
G.P. responds: David, we've had several different views of Nader's
candidacy, pro and con, in our pages. But more to the point, I'd be worried
any time a reader agrees with 100% of what we print; our ideal is readers
who think for themselves, including disagreeing with some of our views. If
any of us who want a better world start walking away when we encounter
views we don't like from a source we usually disagree with--or launching a
bitter campaign against the source (a sort of fratricide the Left has a
long history of), we'll have a multitude of one-person movements in no
time. We're going to have differences, as we often do even within ETS!;
live with it.
History of the Pledge
Letter to the Editor,
Does every pledge of allegiance establish a religion--the worship of
government? As a Libertarian, and an attorney too, I am fascinated by the
Pledge of Allegiance case to be argued on March 24th before the US Supreme
Court. As a pro bono service, I help educate the public about the court
case.
Few people know that if they pledge allegiance to the flag then they recite
a pledge written by a self-proclaimed socialist in the US nationalist
movement, to promote socialism in the most socialistic
institution--government schools.
Few people know that the original salute to the flag was like the National
Socialist German Workers' Party salute and predated it. (photos at
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html)
The pledge was authored in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, first cousin and
follower of the socialist author Edward Bellamy. Edward Bellamy's
futuristic novel, "Looking Backward," (1888) described life in the year
2000. It described a totalitarian society where private trade is outlawed,
where all men are in an "industrial army," and where the monolithic
government school is part of the "industrial army" system. Bellamy saw it
as utopia.
As strange as it may seem, the totalitarian ideas that inspired the
pledge's author resulted in mass atrocities worldwide.
--Rex Curry, Attorney At Law, Tampa, FL
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